what u drink for training [Archive] - SwimClub.co.uk Forums

Dreama

02-09-2002, 02:58 PM

eurgh water is so boring plus it's not the best drink for you to utilize the fluid efficiently. If you want a cheap option the best is something to dilute like squash then add a pinch of salt to add some vital nutrients and help your fluid uptake...If you wanna do it properly then lucozade sport is an excellent formula, containing everything you require, powerade is also just as good...tho they're both pretty expensive...
personally i can't get enough Blue Powerade its yummy and i sneak it in mums trolly lol!

swimfreak01

02-09-2002, 03:08 PM

i drink things like gatorade, vitamin water, powerade, and stuuf like that. i think hey hydrate me more but they taste good so i drink them all 10 minutes into practice.

Pete

02-09-2002, 04:19 PM

You need to drink little and often during the session. If you drink it all at the beginning you will want to out to the toilet after a short while. You will also be suffering from dehydration towards the end of the session. You drink during the session so that your body fluids are topped up allowing you to train more consistantly throughout the session.

Chris

02-09-2002, 06:51 PM

I can't drink anything. The sensation of liquid swishing around in my stomach while I'm swimming makes me feel ill!!

sub24

02-09-2002, 08:25 PM

Although I still swim, I wouldn't call it 'real' swimming, but when I did train, I read a book called "Eat to Win" it was basically all about the importance of drinking water. I began drinking more water and I immediately saw an improvement in my times. Back then (eighties) no one had a water bottle on the pool deck, now it is unusual to see someone without one. Swimmers who have the luck to train outdoors all the time have elaborate water bottles to keep their water cool and even one pool in Phoenix Az has a small stream of water flowing into each lane, like a fountain, for swimmers to drink!
Get in the habit of drinking water, a little bit at a time, and you will be doing what the 'pros' do.
Chris you might be revealing your age :)

swimmer

02-09-2002, 09:34 PM

woah that would be sooo kool to hav one of those fountains! sorry to sound all mumsyish but gatorade (and other high sugar drinks) are sooooo bad for your teeth!!! (btw im not a mum coz im 16 , lol)

Shamu

02-09-2002, 10:08 PM

I agree, Swimmer, I may not be swimming when I'm in my 20's and 30's, but I'd sure love to have all my teeth then. I drink water all the time and maybe diluted Lucozade when I'm feeling reeeeally naughty.

swimfizz

17-09-2002, 02:46 PM

I drink orange squash because i find that water makes me very thirsty and also it does not have a taste. I sometimes drink Lucozade but i dilute it as well cause one it is bad for u and second it is 2 strong 4 me.

Hef

17-09-2002, 08:52 PM

Water

swimusa

18-09-2002, 11:32 PM

Lemonade or water. Not iced tea, too much caffeine, and nver soda cuz of the carbonation.

Meiri

19-09-2002, 11:19 AM

I drink Gatorade.. works best for me.

pippie

28-10-2002, 04:03 PM

well every meal time i drink lemonade is that ok
and in training a have 2 bottles of squash either lemon or orange.
i do have other drinks now and again like water , milk , coffee ,tea.

ktcute

05-11-2002, 01:12 PM

Lemonades got a lot of sugar in it, not too mention all that gas! Other drinks might be more healthy, but it is rehydrating.

I usually use an electrolyte containing carbohydrate drink when I'm swimming. I've not swum for a while so the carbohydrates help me to keep going, and the electrolytes help stop me cramping up. I don't drink it as concentrated as it suggests on the bottle tho, cos it tastes horrid, and really concentrated drinks don't empty fluids from your stomach as quickly...

Kaci

06-11-2002, 11:49 AM

Would it not be better to drink normal drinks i.e water so when you get to competing you will notice the added affect of energy source drinks? Kinda like wearing two pairs of bathers for reisitance work when training.

ktcute

06-11-2002, 06:06 PM

hmmm... if I get a better training session in, then it will benefit me more long term.

One of the reasons for taking an energy drink during training is to try to reduce the depletion of muscle glycogen, and keep blood sugar levels at a reasonable level during endurance work. Its not actually to supply "more energy" at any particular time, unless a training session goes on for a long time. This means I should (according to my theory at least), be fit for a training session quicker than I would have been if I hadn't been taking the drink.

I don't think how used you are to the drink will really make a difference to this outcome, I don't see your body making any really significant adjustments that will reduce the effects of the drink... its not like taking a drug in this respect. What will actually make the difference during a race is not the presence of this stuff in your system, but the accumulated effect of months of training. This adapts your body to be able to make use of its resources much better. If this stuff helps me train longer and harder, then the effects should be better in the long run.

Hope this answers your question, and I hope I'm not too far off on the sports physiology. Fraid they taught me the physiology of fish when I was at university, and I have a little catching up to do on the human front, especially when it comes to sport and exercise.

Kaci

06-11-2002, 08:01 PM

I know as I am studying sport it was a little bit of a silly question but I was just wondering. Its just as water can improve performance but up to 10%, that by pushing though training and making that bit harder you would benefit more in a race, like plyometrics (resistance work). It was just that if you do not rely on high energy drinks during training, you may feel that pooling of the muscles doen't happen as quick when racing as if you were doing a rehersal swim. As I am a 800m swimmer I think long distances.

But obviously training longer and harder will have a more significant effect.

Bootie

07-11-2002, 08:42 AM

As you know Kaci, I drink an energy replacement drink during sessions. I dont think that they make me faster or swim better but it keeps me alert and perky during the session and I dont have the desire to sleep straight afterwards, especially when I have to go to work. When I stared and drunk only water, I would need to sleep for a few hours after training, would feel lethargic during the session and could not concentrate. This doesn't happen any more as I am constantly replacing not only water I have lost but all of the other salts, minerals etc. lost during the course of the session. I for one would never train without such a drink again.

Becki

23-11-2002, 04:32 PM

i av very diluted squash, lucozade is 2 thirst quenching 4 me en trainin, and i end up drinkin loadz ov it! waters 2 plain, i do drink alot of squash wen trainin tho!

swimmer

23-11-2002, 07:12 PM

i ran out of my drink at a gala last wkend, so i had lemon still lucozdade and i eneded up drinking sooo much of it! so yeh i aggree with becki - too thirst quenching! its kinda addictive!

Taz

08-12-2002, 04:48 PM

Hey whats up i drink week orange juice or week vimpto but water yuk

Taz

08-12-2002, 04:50 PM

hey pink fairy i hate drinking lucozade it makes your mouth tinglle

super_fish88

12-01-2003, 06:45 PM

I drink squash or water. Usually i drink about 1-and-a-half to 2 bottles. If i drink any more i feel really sick!

mad4it

07-02-2003, 07:32 PM

i drink water most of the time, but thats only coz all my kit lives @ the pool in my locker and all i can get is out of the fountain, but when my bottle goes home 2 get washed i sumtimes put diluted orange juice in, altho i find u get left with the taste in ur mouth, and it isn't all that nice! u guyz drink loads! i normally only drink 1 bottle per 2hr session - if i drink more i'd b out @ the toilet the whole time :D :mad:

swimmer

08-02-2003, 12:09 AM

hey taz, i have't noticed that! it makes my teeth feel all suggery though! :(

pippie

18-02-2003, 05:22 PM

And how much does everyone drink?

for every hour i drink 1 bottle

otter cub

19-02-2003, 08:47 AM

1 bottle is very vague, what volume does the bottle hold?
I am always getting on at my swimmers to drink plenty of water/squash. But too many of them come to the pool with tiny (fruit shoot) bottles, not enough for an hour session!!

pippie

19-02-2003, 11:21 AM

each of my bottles = 1 litre

and as my most my sessions are 2hr i usually drink 2 litres

swimusa

20-02-2003, 01:47 AM

1 liter of water when I swim, and on hellish days like today, a glass of gin before hand ;)

Bazza

20-02-2003, 09:04 AM

!

liter - is that a typo or the way you lot spell it? :rolleyes:

otter cub

20-02-2003, 01:05 PM

No bazzaroodoo that is they way the Americans spell it, they do the same with quite a few words turn the r & e the other way round, like liter instead of litre and center instead of centre, don't ask me why i just know they do, my American pen-friend always manages to confuse me with her e-mails and funny spellings!:p

mitch

20-02-2003, 02:04 PM

i drink squash with a pich of salt - simple!!

super_fish88

20-02-2003, 04:20 PM

Salt??? Never tried it!

Bazza

20-02-2003, 05:00 PM

Otter cub I knew they said center and meter, but not liter, that looks even more stupid than the other 'americanisms'!

swimusa

20-02-2003, 09:20 PM

Excuse me? Didn't we have this conversation months ago? Besides, we're the ones who drive on the right side of the road ;)

nsswimmer

21-02-2003, 09:49 AM

hahaha we're stupid? lol i find it quite funny to see colour and litre and centre and other stuff...

but i think it's even funnier that while americans think that brits are messing the spelling up while the brits make fun of the americans for messing the spelling up! hahaha xPP

lol i have a strange sense of humor..

Bazza

21-02-2003, 11:07 AM

Well I don't see how they can think we are 'messing the spelling up' - it's our language! You just nicked it and changed a couple of things to make it more personal! :p

Also we had a conversation about why we drive on the left and I believe it was very logical, so again, we are in the right. You lot just wanted to be different.

swimusa

26-02-2003, 03:25 PM

It was very logical to the medieval man. And we changed our (this is an inclusive our because we all speak English) language to make it unique post 1776.

Katie

26-02-2003, 05:15 PM

Do you make up these dates or do you actually look them up/know them?? Either way, it's a good tactic because you sounds like you know what you're talking about! :)

super_fish88

26-02-2003, 05:21 PM

Yeah, i should try it in History, lol!

swimusa

26-02-2003, 07:55 PM

1776 = the year we declared independence from y'all :)

tinie

28-02-2003, 10:12 PM

ornage juce or lucozade

DangerMouse

01-03-2003, 10:11 AM

i tend to have blackcurrent or orange squash, nothing special

Silver Fox

24-01-2007, 11:33 PM

any ideas please as to where I can get Gatorade in powder form in the uk...regards...Laurie
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

floydfan

03-02-2007, 10:17 PM

Larger....................!:zip:

No just kidding, I dont normaly drink before I go in the pool, because I find myself needing to go to the toilet during my swim, and thats annoying, however sometimes I will and that may be a sip of drink just before I get in (only a small amount) thats either very week Orange, or just water.

I dont take any during my swim, mainley afterwoods and it does make you feel better

tufty

14-02-2007, 02:15 PM

orange squash, can't drink water when I'm training it makes me feel sick

Bully

14-02-2007, 02:29 PM

orange squash, can't drink water when I'm training it makes me feel sick

Surely sipping small amounts of drink don't make you feel sick?

rouncivella

14-02-2007, 02:47 PM

My mum was reading agreat atricle about sprots drinks in Tuesday 13th's Daily Mail newspaper. On page 56 it rates all the well-known drinks. 'Taut' comes out on top with 5 out of 5. Try it.

tufty

14-02-2007, 05:09 PM

Surely sipping small amounts of drink don't make you feel sick?

Unfortunately Bully it does don't ask me why, maybe I'm just wierd!!!!

chie

22-02-2007, 09:44 PM

Water unless I'm swimming for longer than an hour then I also have a powerade/gatorade/staminade whatever I feel like at the time.

swim247365

08-04-2007, 06:21 PM

i drink vimto i normally drink 1 litre for an hour an half session but 2 hours ill have a bottle explosade after all the vimto has gone

what do people thinks better lucozade powerade gaterade or explosade (they all end in ade?)

NotVeryFast

08-04-2007, 09:04 PM

what do people thinks better lucozade powerade gaterade or explosade (they all end in ade?)
None of them, I get Asda Isotonic Mixed Berry Flavour Sports Drink. The list of ingredients looks pretty much identical to lucozade sport, but it's only just over half the price (£1.64 for 4 x 500ml bottles) and seems to work just the same for me.

FinswimmerJohn

08-04-2007, 09:09 PM

SiS Go endurance electrolyte made up as per instructions.
Brilliant, alternated with sips of SiS Rego made up as per instructions.
Works brilliantly, so brilliantly i did 2 PBs in BFA Long Course Champs at Aldershot yesterday (and i still dident win a bloody medal!)
FinswimmerJohn
:banghead:

Wildswimmer

08-04-2007, 10:13 PM

I must admit I'm really surprised how the human race has managed to survive all those thousands of years before all these fancy, expensive sports drinks came on the scene.

I find the claims that these drinks hydrate better than plain water to be absolutely ludicrous. Our bodies have evolved to very efficiently utilise plain water and natural juices - not some concoction originating in some laboratory vat. No, these ******ades are all intended to be very healthy for corporate profits. Nothing else.

Mother Nature provides all your necessary micro-nutrients in natural food, and to be quite honest you'd be better rehydrating with proper fruit juices or home-made fruit smoothie. Failing that, just diluted cordial. And if you need any extra energy - just chuck in a couple of tablespoons of glucose powder.

What do I drink?

For winter swimming (water below 10C) Hot cordial + glucose, or hot soup apre swim. Not for rehydration but to warm me up.

For open water at my optimal temperature (around 14-20C): None needed

In pool water or too-warm open water (25-30C): Diluted cordial with glucose.

Of course in river, lake or sea I don't have to get out to go to the toilet ;)
Well the fish don't, do they?

Wildswimmer Pete

Stevie_k

09-04-2007, 08:03 AM

I dont know if its relavent to hydration, but everytime ive gone to out to a swim meet ive come home with a terrible headache. Thats 3 times out of 3. I drink litres of water and it doesnt seem to help. I dont know why, perhaps its the nerves, poolside heat, the long drive, exersion, im not sure why it is. My neighbor told me to drink a glocuse based drink all day instead of water for day 2 crawley after id been down after day 1 as usual. It worked, i came home without the usual headache.

Science or coincidence, im not sure but ill prolly keep up the trend now.

For long training sessions just water, anything else makes me sick.

FinswimmerJohn

09-04-2007, 08:10 AM

Water is just hydrogen and oxygen combined in a certain ratio and when anyone sweats they loose more than water; minerals and salts get binned as well, which is why an isotonic electrolyte solution is better, keeps the muscle fibres functioning more correctly for longer.
Hence you dont get as knacked when you take it.
Headaches are a classic symptom of dehydration - hangovers? QED.

NotVeryFast

09-04-2007, 09:08 AM

I must admit I'm really surprised how the human race has managed to survive all those thousands of years before all these fancy, expensive sports drinks came on the scene.

I find the claims that these drinks hydrate better than plain water to be absolutely ludicrous. Our bodies have evolved to very efficiently utilise plain water and natural juices - not some concoction originating in some laboratory vat.
First of all, our bodies are clearly not ideally adapted, e.g. vast numbers of people are short sighted or have allergies. It's entirely possible for there to be scientific assistance that can be provided to improve upon a person's natural state, e.g. glasses for a short sighted person.

Also, sports training is not a natural activity. You don't see lions out in the wild doing some 100m sprint repeats to keep themselves fit in between catching prey. They exert themselves the bare minimum necessary to catch their next meal. For all we know, they might have a splitting headache much of the time and might really appreciate a sports drink!

I've tried glucose powder and it just doesn't work for me, whereas isotonic sports drinks do. Did you see the Dr Alice Roberts Don't Die Young series that was on tv not so long ago? In one of those episodes they looked at this very issue, and gave some people different fluids to drink after exercise. They then looked at how much urine they produced afterwards to see how much of the fluid was retained. The water with electrolytes was much better retained in the body than the pure water.

Wildswimmer

09-04-2007, 09:21 AM

Back during that blistering summer of 1976 I was working for a while in an ambient temperature of 140 deg F (no, that's not a typo: 140F). The firm supplied an electrolyte drink made up in the lab in standard 2.5L Winchester bottles (which were emptied in minutes!)

The contents: water, lime cordial, glucose, salt (NaCL). I'm not sure but there may have been potassium chloride as well. Anyhoo it worked very well.

I rest my case, M'Lud

I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced. I suspect that the gains experienced after using sports drinks may be more down to psychology. Well, after paying nearly two quid for a small bottle of chemical fizz it's GOT to do you good. Hasn't it!?!?!?! I make up my own chemical fizz - much cheaper and at least I know what's in it.

Should you really want to do the job properly, this page:

http://www.who.int/child-adolescent-health/New_Publications/NEWS/Statement.htm

contains the recipe for making up oral rehydration salt drinks. Cheap, cheerful and effective. Without putting money into the pockets of multinationals.

Wildswimmer Pete

NB Bear in mind that LoSalt table salt substitute is mostly KCl.

Bully

09-04-2007, 12:30 PM

I recently found an excellent website on this subject, but unfortuanately the link is on my computer at work, but basically re-hydration takes over 24 hours therefore if you turn up at training or a meet already dehydrated you can drink alll day and it will not rehydrate you until 24 hours later, therefore it is vital to drink plenty 24 hours before the meet to ensure that you are hydrated on the day. Water does not contain proteins, which as far as I'm aware are vital for muscle repair therefore water as a form of hydration aid is excellent while as a performance enhancing aid has very little benefit.
Again most scientific evidence seems to be under the control of the company either marketing the product or making the product.

Wildswimmer

09-04-2007, 02:38 PM

Water does not contain proteins, which as far as I'm aware are vital for muscle repair therefore water as a form of hydration aid is excellent while as a performance enhancing aid has very little benefit.

Welcome back Bully - I've felt lost without you regularly insulting me ;)

Ah, but milk contains both water and protein (caseine). A piece of cheese is very rich in milk protein.

And to paraphrase an old '60s advertising catchphrase: "go swim on an egg". Plenty of protein (albumin) in egg white.

Of course Leppie's favourite sports drink is a meal in itself - but only recommended apre swim.

Wildswimmer Pete

Steve

09-04-2007, 03:33 PM

Wildswimmer

09-04-2007, 03:44 PM

So really your problem is with multinationals and their profiteering from these drinks rather than their efficacy - after all your recipe you describe above is probably 95% the same as Lucozade sport and you say it works - QED! :)

Yes - very much so. I don't like seeing people hoodwinked by slick marketing, into buying overpriced, over packaged drinks of doubtful efficacy when it's very easy to make your own at minimal cost to the pocket as well as the planet.

Bear in mind I'm a child of the 50s and 60s, when folk were far more resourceful than now. They had to be - wartime rationing was still in place up to 1953 (when I was three). So I have no time for today's globalised money-grubbing rip-off squanderarchy.

Wildswimmer Pete

Bully

09-04-2007, 08:33 PM

Welcome back Bully - I've felt lost without you regularly insulting me ;)

That's a bit harsh Pete I don't think I'm always insulting you, and no wonder you're a big fat b*****d if you eat eggs and cheese for hydration!!!

Leprechaun

10-04-2007, 09:28 AM

Welcome back Bully - I've felt lost without you regularly insulting me ;)

Of course Leppie's favourite sports drink is a meal in itself - but only recommended apre swim.

Wildswimmer Pete

Ah - next time I am glared at for not setting the right example to the younger, faster, go-getting generation I can advise them I am repairing muscles whilst loafing in the Spectrum liquor-outlet!

Usually only apres-swim, but known to have been (successfully) used to boost mental approach to a 50m sprint.