at it again

[2.tso]

yes its true speedo are playing swim suit wars again see the link below!!!!

http://www.speedo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=272&Itemid=158&cc=global&lc=en

[Stevie_k]

I wonder if that would add my bit in their credits

"its PROPER cheating"

"steve king"

[2.tso]

I Knew This Would Get A Rise From You!

[2.tso]

Ok stevie tell me what is it that you detest so much about these suits??

it could be a great marketing ploy to have to test drive 1 to see if it could change your mind!!

[missjackiechan]

I Knew This Would Get A Rise From You!

I could add a comment about this..but I wont, as I am behaving :)

[2.tso]

I am behaving :)

i wont comment on this either

:rolleyes:

[Stevie_k]

You wont change my mind. I had my rant on the poll i made ages ago, something like "should fastskins have ever been invented".

The answer is simply no they should not, it has spoiled swimming to some degree.

Any argument suggesion otherwise it clearly wrong, and whoever tries can shove your pathetic attempts to verify them right up their ****!!!

[2.tso]

the question i have for you stevie if someone came to you and said right i want you to try this suit against your budgies would you be prepared to test???

[Knowley]

It feels like swimming downhill I've signed up :D

[Stevie_k]

the question i have for you stevie if someone came to you and said right i want you to try this suit against your budgies would you be prepared to test???


I dont give a flying f*** if it does make me swim faster. Im not prepared to sp**k hundreds of pounds to get even with a field that should be even in the first place.

Fastskins rape the very essence of our sport, the beauty of 1 on 1, skin V skin no technology crap, why bring money into the argument!!!

This mum has more money than that mum, her kid beats a kid for a Q time because she wore a skin, enjoy your HOLLOW victory, you took my gold because you are MUG enough to thrown your money away on that s**t, shove it mate, my silver was EARNED it tastes sweet!

If you want it that much take it.

Want more???

[2.tso]

hahahaha

[2.tso]

should we talk cars next stevie? ;)

[Stevie_k]

im not sure anything gets under my skin like cheating in sport.

if i caught someone cheating their name would be DIRT for all eternity to me.

skins are legalised cheating. I does not taste good.

Its snowballed cheating, and cant be avoided. Once one wears one, the rest must follow, except the cheapskate people with too many values (bows). Hope fina are happy, THEY SOLD US OUT!!!

(do you wish you hadnt got me started yet)

[2.tso]

Speedo to reveal ‘space age’ elite swimsuit in four major cities on February 12th
Following product approval from FINA, Speedo has been actively promoting the upcoming unveiling of its new ‘space age’ elite technical swimsuit. Speedo calls the new suit, which was three years in the making; it’s most revolutionary and sophisticated design ever, and will launch the suit simultaneously in Sydney, Tokyo, New York and London on February 12, 2008. The suit has already been endorsed by swimmers such as Grant Hackett and Michael Phelps, and it has been announced the suit will be publicly revealed by leading swimmers. Speedo, which celebrates its 80th anniversary in 2008, distributes its products in over 170 countries

[Apostle]

of course it's been endorsed by hackett and phelps. How much do speedo pay them?

[Wildswimmer]

I was always under the impression that part of the attraction of swimming was the feeling of being at one with the water. Anyone who's secretly skinnydipped outdoors on a dark night will know the absolute feeling of sensuality that comes with discarding even a pair of budgies.

Wearing fastskins must be like wearing a wetsuit. Anyway, can't you acheive the same effect by shaving all over? Given our aquatic origins human skin has evolved to work efficiently in water. How can Speedo et al claim to do better than billions of years' evolution?

Wildswimmer Pete

[xml]

can't you acheive the same effect by shaving all over?
I thought the idea was that the hairier you are under these suits, the better. That way you trap air and increase buoyancy.

[LAZy]

And let's face it - they do hold all the body bits where they should be.

That'll do for me these days.

[Juicy Lucy]

skins are legalised cheating. It does not taste good.



At long last Stevie, now we know where you are going wrong.

You are supposed to put your arms and legs into them, not ram the suit in your gob.

[Apostle]

I believe that the suits mimic the skin of sharks. I guss they have skin that is better suited to water.

Hey Stevie.

Is it cheating to,

Develop better running shoes?
Try to make F1 cars go faster?
Make lighter foorball shoes/footballs?
Reduce boxing to 12 rounds from what was basically last man standing?
Develop the space shuttle when we should have stopped at orville and wright.
Introduce seat belts in cars?

I guess thepoint I'm trying to make is that as humans we always try to find new limits in everything we do. I don't call that cheating. I call the price of the things absoulte daylight robbery. But not cheating. Perhaps if everyone could afford them, IE they were only 20 quid would that be better?

[NotVeryFast]

Apparently the new speedo suits are going to be launched on the 12th:
http://www.timedfinals.com/04022008/speedo-to-unvail-new-suit-in-four-international-cities/

They have some promo videos up:
http://www.speedo80.com/

[Apostle]

How much will this one be? £400

At least the FS pro shlould come down.

[Stevie_k]

I believe that the suits mimic the skin of sharks. I guss they have skin that is better suited to water.

Hey Stevie.

Is it cheating to,

Develop better running shoes?
Try to make F1 cars go faster?
Make lighter foorball shoes/footballs?
Reduce boxing to 12 rounds from what was basically last man standing?
Develop the space shuttle when we should have stopped at orville and wright.
Introduce seat belts in cars?

I guess thepoint I'm trying to make is that as humans we always try to find new limits in everything we do. I don't call that cheating. I call the price of the things absoulte daylight robbery. But not cheating. Perhaps if everyone could afford them, IE they were only 20 quid would that be better?

nah im having none of it.

Swimming was always supposed to be man v man no gimmicks and advantages.

What about the mother who cannot afford the 200 suid suit neccecary to give her child a chance at a Q time.

Or the people like me who are not stupid enough to throw their money away on this rubbish.

Do we deserve to lose x seconds to the field?

Please leave me..i lost this argument gracefully, i cant go getting all foamed up at the mouth to no avail all over again :cry:

[tKatie2]

Hi Stevie, I take your point about the cost, but I think the suits don't make a massive amount of difference unless you're at the top end of the sport fighting for every hundredth, and then you'll get the suit for free anyway! The only thing that makes a difference (for me anyway) is that when I'm wearing a race suit I know it's time to get serious and get ready to go. But what I've done (or not done!) in training is what will determine how well I swim, not the suit.

Certainly in age group swimming working hard on your skills and technique is going to give you a better shot at Q times than any fancy suit will, and that's what the mother who can't afford the £200 should tell her child. Kids just want the suits because they see Phelps etc swimming in them on tv.

[Juicy Lucy]

I take your point about the cost, but I think the suits don't make a massive amount of difference unless you're at the top end of the sport fighting for every hundredth,
I reckon I'm 3 or 4 seconds faster per 100m when wearing a suit.

[zanshin]

I wouldn’t wear one because

• Too expensive:aarrgghh:
• Wouldn’t make me any faster or if it did it wouldn’t matter I’d still be crap:)
• I’d look like a blob of fat squeezed into a condom:zip:

[Katie]

I've seen the suits and they are certainly different... but that still wouldn't stop me wearing Diana. In my opinion the Speedo suits so far are no better than Diana suits, as well as being more expensive and less comfortable. Probably not the best thing to say as a swimmer from a team sponsored by Speedo, but that's my opinion!

[Gina]

I prefer the cut of a Diana suit and the seems are a lot better on the new version. I have got a few more suits to add to my collection but I didn't pay for them!

I don't think suits are necessary for kids. They improve at a much faster rate than older swimmers and an expensive suit is wasted at that age.

[NotVeryFast]

Well, today is the day. I think Stevie K could become best buddies with some of the people commenting about the new suit on Timed Finals (http://www.timedfinals.com/11022008/see-speedos-new-suit-on-today-show/).

[Juicy Lucy]

Well, today is the day. I think Stevie K could become best buddies with some of the people commenting about the new suit on Timed Finals (http://www.timedfinals.com/11022008/see-speedos-new-suit-on-today-show/).

I thought this bit of the article was interesting...

"And a few months ago word out of Australia of a fabric (not owned by Speedo??) that was even more groundbreaking, but slightly bouyant (is that on the horizon–you literally get to float down the pool)"

I'm guessing here, but I think this may be the new bodysuit TYR are developing. I spoke to someone only yesterday at the Apples and Pears PR agency. They are working with TYR to promote their new 'technology suit' before the Olympics. I was told that those who have tested the suit all claimed to have skimmed along the surface of the pool, and they said the buoyancy is remarkable.

Come on Stevie_k, you can skim along the surface with the rest of us, or continue to swim through the pudding on your own!

JL

[Katie]

http://beta.sports.yahoo.com/olympics/photo?slug=bb92dae46b02534bf6a1499de8da4d2b-getty-australia-world_s_fastest_swimsuit&prov=getty
Looks a bit weird!

[Speedy Gonzalez]

http://beta.sports.yahoo.com/olympics/photo?slug=bb92dae46b02534bf6a1499de8da4d2b-getty-australia-world_s_fastest_swimsuit&prov=getty
Looks a bit weird!


It seems to make half your legs disappear.

[2.tso]

not really the pic i was hoping for i wanted to see a detailed close up i could care less who was wearing it, i guess more pics of the actual suit will come with time!

[FlyingBean]

Sw 10.7 No Swimmer shall be permitted to use or wear any device that may aid his speed, buoyancy or endurance during a competition

Doesn't this new fabric claim to be "slightly" buoyant - surely it can't be legal then?

[NotVeryFast]

Sw 10.7 No Swimmer shall be permitted to use or wear any device that may aid his speed, buoyancy or endurance during a competition

Doesn't this new fabric claim to be "slightly" buoyant - surely it can't be legal then?
The existing suits definitely make you more buoyant, though, so they stopped worrying about that rule a long time ago. They also seem happy enough to claim that the suits benefit endurance by compressing your muscles to reduce energy lost through vibrations, which also seems to be against the rules.

I honestly think we would have been better off if these suits had never been approved. There is a precedent for "unwinding" such technological improvements - in the cycling hour record (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hour_record), they got fed up with the record being broken just because someone had a faster bike, so they eventually changed the rules in 1996 to put equipment back to the same level as 1972, and put the world record back to where it was in 1972. I doubt FINA will have the guts to do the same thing for swimming.

[xml]

Sw 10.7 No Swimmer shall be permitted to use or wear any device that may aid his speed, buoyancy or endurance during a competition
Surely these suits claim to aid all three of speed, buoyancy and endurance? Compression garments in other sports claim to enhance endurance.

[Chris]

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1646681.jpg

[2.tso]

much better! looks like soe form of neoprene type stuff on he patches

[Stevie_k]

amazing.

I enjoyed reading those articles.

I dont even see HOW there can be a argument that these suits are a good thing. I dont even see the point of view of a pro skin person.

Its garbage...utter garbage.

Never mind, im happy to swim as a personal achievement against the clock, the try hards and money men can argue the medals in their cheat suits all they like.

At least i dont have to moan about them anymore, i can just cut and paste from those opinions.

oh and i dont give a flying **** what they look like.

Id actually like to shove one up the CEO of speedo's ar5e!

[Juicy Lucy]

They appear to be see-through. They certainly don't leave much to the imagination.

[2.tso]

Made from an ultra lightweight, low drag, water repellent, fast drying fabric, unique to Speedo, called LZR PULSE, the LZR RACER is the world's first fully bonded swimsuit that is ultrasonically welded and gives the effect of no seams at all.

Ultra low drag LZR Panels are embedded into the base fabric to create a ‘Hydro Form Compression system' helping to compress the entire swimmer's body into a more streamlined shape and enabling them to cut through the water with more power and agility.

[lane4]

They appear to be see-through. They certainly don't leave much to the imagination. An ASA and Juicy Lucy child protection issue perhaps?

[xml]

They appear to be see-through. They certainly don't leave much to the imagination.
You could buy the airbrushed version:

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2008/02/11/phelpsx-large.jpg

[Juicy Lucy]

You could buy the airbrushed version:

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2008/02/11/phelpsx-large.jpg


Blimey!

[Linny]

Double blimey!!

Isn't chopping your bits off taking the desire for a streamlined profile a bit too far?

Is that supposed to be a promotional picture?

[xml]

Maybe he had a sex change to reduce drag. Is that cheating stevie_k?

[Linny]

Maybe he had a sex change to reduce drag.Jinx!

[cougar]

So where do we draw the line under artificial aids to keep records tumbling? What if a swimmer goes for cosmetic surgery and gets grafts of skin between their fingers and toes , or has their ears removed in a attempt at better streamlining. Hey why not really go for it genetic engeneering that could be the way forward, you could end up with a cross betwwen Patrick Duffy ( man from atlantis) and Flipper !!!

[2.tso]

has their ears removed in a attempt at better streamlining.

i have visions hahahahahahahahaha

[Chris]

Here's some shots of the Male suits ...

[Chris]

And some more ...

[Chris]

And the female suits ...

[Chris]

And some more ...

[Chris]

And some shiney new goggles that I must have a pair (or two!) of ...

[NotVeryFast]

Apparently they won't be available to the likes of us till July/August (http://www.timedfinals.com/12022008/average-swimmer-should-prepare-to-wait-for-lzr-racer/#more-2369).

And have you seen the prices?!!
$550 Bodyskin
$350 Legskin
$290 Jammer

[lane4]

Phelps and friends are going to be wearing it this weekend at the meet in Missouri. A simple coincidence that Club Wolverine are tapering for this meet, at the same time Speedo launch the new suit? Hmmmm...

Phelps wears newly launched suit and breaks world record. Well done Mike, the new suit and Speedo! Increased press coverage because of new suit launch, Mike asked plenty of questions about the new suit, Mike tells everyone the new suit is really good, it helped him break the record, everyone wants new suit even more!

[Katie]

It's really worrying that it took me quite a while to work out who "Mike" is. I forgot he had a first name!!
Out of interest, has the FS-PRO been a success? I was under the impression it was released to rival the likes of Diana suits, but was actually more expensive and (in my opinion) less comfortable. Now they're bringing out a new one which looks and apparently is great, but how many people are going to be able to afford it?

[Knowley]

Apparently they won't be available to the likes of us till July/August. too late for perth... diana will be getting my money then ;)

[Woodward]

And have you seen the prices?!!
$550 Bodyskin
$350 Legskin
$290 Jammer
Not quite as bad for you with the dollar in the dumps.

Kate Ziegler on the new suit (from the Speedo homepage):
"It's like you're flying across the water, your hips are higher in the water and you just feel like your flying across the surface."

Pretty much says it all.

Swimmers must also pay a steep $500 dollar fine if they smile during Speedo promotional activities.

[Silver Fox]

Knowley...what do you mean...you've signed up...have I missed something ?

[Knowley]

Knowley...what do you mean...you've signed up...have I missed something ?

I mean July/August is too late for this new 'wonder' product to be used at the world masters? I have signed up for the masters meet yeah, flights booked, hotel deposit paid :aarrgghh:

[2.tso]

Speedo has delivered a Henry-Ford message to the nations that will wear its new suit: you can have any colour as long as its black - unless you're American or Australian, it seems.

When swimmers ltakes to their blocks Water Cube's blocks at the Beijing Olympics, only the aquatic superpowers will be distinguishable by their national colours. The rest, 33 nations - including Britain, home of Speedo, according to reports - will just have to make do with the rather military look of the LZR Racer, launched yesterday in London in all its grey and blackness.

You can rely on Jacquelin Magnay of the Sydney Morning Herald to spot a good line when there's one to be fished out. She reports: 'given Australia's hefty pull in the global swimming market, the company (Speedo) has agreed to colour the Australian suits in green and gold. Only the United States, with its well-known red, white and blue colours, will be similarly accommodated.'

The Aussie Olympic committee are looking at the design but approval is not far away for a suit described by Leisel Jones as the 'world's fastest corset'.

Not all the Dolphins will wear Speedo and all the suit makers have new suits with tall claims attached and new properties said to aid swimming speed: Jodie Henry, Olympic 100m free champion, is taking the Thorpedo route, in the all-black adidas suit, while Jim Piper, like Cullen Jones in the US, will don Nike, a growing player in the market. Many of Europe's swimmers will wear Arena, and Tyr has a fine selection of athletes too. (swim news)

[DodgyDunk]

Speedo has delivered a Henry-Ford message to the nations that will wear its new suit: you can have any colour as long as its black - unless you're American or Australian, it seems.

When swimmers ltakes to their blocks Water Cube's blocks at the Beijing Olympics, only the aquatic superpowers will be distinguishable by their national colours. The rest, 33 nations - including Britain, home of Speedo, according to reports - will just have to make do with the rather military look of the LZR Racer, launched yesterday in London in all its grey and blackness.

You can rely on Jacquelin Magnay of the Sydney Morning Herald to spot a good line when there's one to be fished out. She reports: 'given Australia's hefty pull in the global swimming market, the company (Speedo) has agreed to colour the Australian suits in green and gold. Only the United States, with its well-known red, white and blue colours, will be similarly accommodated.'

The Aussie Olympic committee are looking at the design but approval is not far away for a suit described by Leisel Jones as the 'world's fastest corset'.

Not all the Dolphins will wear Speedo and all the suit makers have new suits with tall claims attached and new properties said to aid swimming speed: Jodie Henry, Olympic 100m free champion, is taking the Thorpedo route, in the all-black adidas suit, while Jim Piper, like Cullen Jones in the US, will don Nike, a growing player in the market. Many of Europe's swimmers will wear Arena, and Tyr has a fine selection of athletes too.

Shouldn't you put quotes around this piece together with an attribution and link? I thought the punctuation was too good for one of yours ;-)

[2.tso]

thx

[Cagri]

I loved the new Aquasocket goggles, they'll be better than the Swedish. I so want to try one!

[swimmer]

£320 for a female bodysuit (no arms) http://www.swimshop.co.uk/category.asp?rt=0&link_id=1&rid=840124&page=category.asp&cat_id=LZRRACERSUITS&src=LZRRACERSUITS

! Surely no-one apart from the top swimmers (who likely get the kit free anyway) will be stupid enough to pay that kind of money?

[2.tso]

£320 for a female bodysuit (no arms) http://www.swimshop.co.uk/category.asp?rt=0&link_id=1&rid=840124&page=category.asp&cat_id=LZRRACERSUITS&src=LZRRACERSUITS

! Surely no-one apart from the top swimmers (who likely get the kit free anyway) will be stupid enough to pay that kind of money?

i have seen 10 yr olds wearing £100 suits that dont fit i woulndt be surprised to see people in these this year!!!

[Ms T Goggles]

Only the United States, with its well-known red, white and blue colours, will be similarly accommodated.'

With it being a little see-through, hope they're careful where they put the white bits -

The Aussie Olympic committee are looking at the design but approval is not far away for a suit described by Leisel Jones as the 'world's fastest corset'.


It's quite 'surgical looking' - anyone familiar with pregnancy 'belts' that support the bump or hold your pelvis together when everytihng feels like it's going to fall apart?
Another design to go down well with masters figures methinks.

[swimmer]

i have seen 10 yr olds wearing £100 suits that dont fit i woulndt be surprised to see people in these this year!!!

yes but now it's going to be 10 year olds in £320 suits that don't fit!

[Linny]

£320 for a female bodysuit (no arms) http://www.swimshop.co.uk/category.asp?rt=0&link_id=1&rid=840124&page=category.asp&cat_id=LZRRACERSUITS&src=LZRRACERSUITS

! Surely no-one apart from the top swimmers (who likely get the kit free anyway) will be stupid enough to pay that kind of money?Yes, it's interesting isn't it?

Speedo makes a suit that at best borders on legal but it makes swimmers faster so they want them. The suits cost a fortune and Speedo takes the money from selling them to ordinary swimmers and especially masters swimmers and the parents of age group swimmers. Speedo uses the money it makes from ordinary swimmers to gain publicity by sponsoring NGBs and major events and to provide swimsuits to high profile athletes. The high status individuals on FINA committees appreciate Speedo's support and pass Speedo's swimsuits as OK. Speedo makes another suit that at best borders on legal etc etc.

Not suggesting anything untoward for a moment, it's just canny business practice; just remember when you are buying a suit that some of your money is being used to give suits to high profile swimmers so that they can sell them to you on ebay later after the event when they haven't worn them. ;)

[Woodward]

Does anyone else think lizard when they read 'LZR?'

[happySwimmer]

Can you get them with arms? If so any idea where from and how much? I'd probably buy one. I think they make me swim faster and they are flattering to my figure. I reckon that makes them worthwhile to me.

[swimmer]

not from swimshop. But why not just get the normal fastskin or FSII if you just want it to 'swim faster' and for the flattering qualities? I can understand paying even upto £150 for a suit (hell, I have enough of them) as then they can be main birthday or Christmas presents, but £320 is just OTT.

[Juicy Lucy]

I think they look awful, especially when viewed from the back.

[Breaststrokemum]

Truly hideous in my opinion!

BM

[catena]

From the back it reminds me of primates with coloured rumps to attract members of the opposite sex. Could be interesting.

[Chris]

I'll have two please!

And when they come in different colours ... :wave:

[happySwimmer]

... why not just get the normal fastskin

I've got two already.

... but £320 is just OTT

If I were a golfer a set of clubs would cost me more.

I think they look awful, especially when viewed from the back.

But not as bad as a view of bare flesh when a swimmer bends over on the blocks!

[NotVeryFast]

If I were a golfer a set of clubs would cost me more.
But a set of clubs would last you absolutely ages. These suits degrade every time you swim in them. This was obvious to me at Crawley the other weekend when I took a brand new FS Pro legskin along with an older FS Pro legskin that had been worn for 7 races before. When I rinsed them out after wearing them, the new one was almost completely waterproof, the old one had no waterproof property at all, the water just soaked straight into it. My best times were done in the one swim each day when I wore the new legskin.

I think with the price of the new FS LZR, unless you have unlimited funds to buy a new suit every few races, you have to consider longevity. The LZR is almost twice the price of the Pro, so you could have a new Pro every 4 races for the price of a new LZR every 8 races, and the Pro might then be faster for races 5 to 8 compared to the LZR that will be getting a bit tired by then.

[xml]

The LZR is almost twice the price of the Pro, so you could have a new Pro every 4 races for the price of a new LZR every 8 races, and the Pro might then be faster for races 5 to 8 compared to the LZR that will be getting a bit tired by then.
And they say triathlon is expensive!

[Breaststrokemum]

It looks like racheybabes is modelling the prototype on her avatar!

BM

[cougar]

I tell you what its only the size of the swimmers arms that tells you male from female, jeez and its still close.

[LAZy]

I tell you what its only the size of the swimmers arms that tells you male from female, jeez and its still close.

We've obviously never met, Cougar!

[SplashNblub]

I have to say that the whole concept of suits is a disgrace. They do enhance performance without doubt - apart from anything else they alter the cross-sectional profile of swimmers whether with regard to flattening breasts or pulling in stomachs. Not that I am advocating naked swimming of course.:devil:

What is of interest is that they always stop above the ankle. I wonder if suits with socks will appear eventually - giving better grip on starts and doing away with slippage between toes........ Oh and finally most swimmers do not realize that a new suit which has never been wet will be faster than one that you have worn for warm up -that is one of the reasons why Mark Foster does a dry warm up.

[lane4]

I have to say that the whole concept of suits is a disgrace. They do enhance performance without doubt.Absolutely, I've been saying this since they came out in 2000, they are in blatant breach of FINA rules, FINA clearly knows this, but has allowed them anyway. I tried to fight their introduction years ago but didn't have enough support. The fight has long since been lost, and the suits are here to stay.

Oh and finally most swimmers do not realize that a new suit which has never been wet will be faster than one that you have worn for warm up -that is one of the reasons why Mark Foster does a dry warm up.But you can warm-up in a pair of regular trunks, then dry down and put your brand new dry suit on. Mark Foster used to do dry warm-ups long before body suits came along though! Sometimes they were even too dry and he missed qualifying for the final, or occasionally missed his swim altogether!

[Stevie_k]

Lane 4 & splash n blub, could you please pm me your address's i would like to send you christmas cards from here on in :)

These suits disgust me (huge suprise)

And all that toss their hard earned pennies away on them for arteficial time gains make me laugh.

I will remain slow in dignity!

[Juicy Lucy]

These suits degrade every time you swim in them.... My best times were done in the one swim each day when I wore the new legskin.


There's a well known female masters swimmer from the London area who wears her suit for only one swim. I'm coming round to this way of thinking too. They are great when worn for the first time, the buoyancy is unbelievable.

[Gina]

I think suits do help performance but paying that much is just a rip off. I'll laugh at anyone who buys a LZR for their kid as it is pointless!

I think bodysuits are a long the same lines as tennis rackets, footballs, football boots, football shirts, running shoes, golf clubs, tennis balls, F1 cars, and most playing fields. They are designed to improve performance. Body suits are fine just as long and they cover the skin and not add extra skin to a body. If they covered the feet and hands then it adds extra skin so they become webbed. Suits don't have motors on them so they are just adding slightly to the buoyancy like new footballs can travel faster and tennis rackets can produce more power. There is going to be a point where suits cannot be any more buoyant and Speedo won't come out with a hovering bodysuit so swimmers can travel over the water and not in it. So don't panic!

[Knowley]

Speedo say the new kit won't be available in the UK or Austrailia till May/June this year... I might be able to order from the US but doubt it will be ready in time for the World Masters... so at least I won't have to waste loads of money on a new outfit :)

[Emosmum]

Frankly I think the LZRS look like some sort of bondage wear!......

Whats with Black and Grey too Speedo .........sooo boring...

Ooh I do have a pair of Black FsPro legskins in a size 30" (Usa version) currently For Sale , they had been in the water for 3 events... Yth Nationals swimmer had a smaller pair , as they were a bit big for him ...... wants £55 for them plus p&p .....

Would say they will fit up to a 5 ft 7 tall swimmer ..... 30 waist .... PM me if anyone interested....

:wave:

What suits have GB swimmers been issued with for Trials and World Champs? anyone know what colours they will be wearing .... :zip:

Cheers Emosmum

[2.tso]

If the gb swimmers get the LZRS they will be wearing the black and grey ,only usa and australia will get their own colours