****Your Medalists 2008 Male*****

[2.tso]

Ok nows you chance to see who you think will be teh medalists in each event in the "water cube" this summer 2008 olympics.


Mens
50 free
g
s
b
100 free
g
s
b
200free
g
s
b
400free
g
s
b
1500free
g
s
b
100back
g
s
b
200back
g
s
b
100breast
g
s
b
200breast
g
s
b
100fly
g
s
b
200fly
g
s
b
200IM
g
s
b
400IM
g
s
b
4x100 free
g
s
b
4x200free
g
s
b
4x100medley
g
s
b

[2.tso]

Ok nows you chance to see who you think will be teh medalists in each event in the "water cube" this summer 2008 olympics.


Mens
50 free
g Gary Hall JNR
s Hoogenband
b Bousquet

100 free
g Hoogenband
s Nystrand
b Cavic

200free
g Phelps
s Hoogenband
b Keller

400free
g Phelps
s Keller
b Park

1500free
g Hackett
s Park
b Rainer Ng

100back
g Ball
s Phelps
b Hawes

200back
g Ball
s Persol
b Delaney

100breast
g Hansen
s Kitama
b Sludnov

200breast
g Hansen
s Guirta
b Bree

100fly
g Phelps
s Crocker
b Pine

200fly
g Phelps
s Skvortsov
b Cseh

200IM
g Phelps
s Pereira
b Cseh

400IM
g Phelps
s Cseh
b Pereira

4x100 free
g USA
s SA
b Sweeden

4x200free
g Aus
s USA
b Germany

4x100medley
g Usa
s AUS
b Sweeden


my guesses

[Apostle]

my guesses

Do you reckon on Phelps geetting 9 golds then?

I'd be amazed if he won the 400. I think Hackett ha got his life back together and may well win that.

But then Phelps just continues to blow people away.

I also reckson that Crocker may finally get one back on Phelps in the 100 fly.

[ambresolaire]

my guesses

Are you serious about Randall Bal winning both backstrokes?
If so let's have a bet on it. Even money that he doesn't win either. £100?

[ambresolaire]

my guesses

Or did you mean Ryan Lochte?

[2.tso]

8 gold 2 silver!for phelps! i thing randall ball will be int there

[Linny]

Are you serious about Randall Bal winning both backstrokes?
If so let's have a bet on it. Even money that he doesn't win either. £100?What odds did you get on Vendt in the end or did you not manage to get any? Do you have a habit?

[Bully]

What Linny is basically asking, is, do you have more money than sense or just a lack of both?

[Linny]

What Linny is basically asking, is, do you have more money than sense or just a lack of both?No she isn't; she's just fancying taking advantage of ambresolaire having done the legwork.

[Bully]

No she isn't; she's just fancying taking advantage of ambresolaire having done the legwork.

You wouldn't say that if you saw him, lets say what he lacks in money and sense, he doesn't make up for in looks :)

[Dreama]

You can't write off Lochte

[2.tso]

the thread is for everyone to put their own predicions! these are my predictions!

[ambresolaire]

What odds did you get on Vendt in the end or did you not manage to get any? Do you have a habit?

Haven't managed to get any odds on Vendt yet. Much much closer to the time there'll be a market on betfair.
And yes, I have got a habit.

[Woodward]

A bit early?

Several of 2.0mps's medal predictions may not even make their Olympic Squads.

[2.tso]

indeed

[Woodward]

Do not hold me to these picks. I reserve the right to change them when I know who is swimming and what they are swimming. So officially these are not picks! Just thoughts.

Mens

50 free
Nystrand
Wildman-Tobriner
Cielo

100 free
Nystrand
Hayden
Bernard

200free
Phelps
Vanderkaay
Monk

400free
Park
Vanderkaay
Hackett

1500 free
Hackett
Sawrymowicz
Davies

100back
Peirsol
Tancock
Bal

200back
Peirsol
Rogan
Lochte

100breast
Kitajima
Hansen
Gangloff

200breast
Kitajima
Hansen
Gyurta

100fly
Crocker
Phelps
Ferns

200fly
Phelps
Korzeniowski
Pang

200IM
Phelps
Lochte
Cseh

400IM
Phelps
Cseh
Lochte

4x100 free
U.S.
France
Australia

4x200free
U.S.
Britain
Australia

4x100medley
U.S.
Australia
Russia

[SplashNblub]

Woodward I think Davies could do Bronze as you suggest.
His South African swim very good.

[2.tso]

good picks woodward!

[Gina]

Quite similar to Woodwards now that I've looked over his predictions. I think Vanderkaay could have a good year now he is out of college and I am looking forward to the GB guys stepping up in the 4x200 after the Commies in 2006.

Mens
50 free - anyones race really
g Cullen Jones
s Alain Bernard
b Stefan Nystrand
100 free
g Stefan Nystrand
s Alain Bernard
b Eamon Sullivan
200free
g Phelps
s Pieter VDH
b Peter Vanderkaay
400free
g Park
s Hackett
b Vanderkaay
1500free
g Sawrymowicz
s Hackett
b Davies
100back
g Lochte
s Phelps
b Tancock
200back
g Lochte
s Peirsol
b Rogan
100breast
g Hansen
s Kitajima
b Gangloff - or whoever finished 2nd in the US trials
200breast
g Hansen
s Gyurta
b Gilchrist
100fly
g Crocker
s Phelps
b Dunford
200fly
g Phelps
s Peng
b Shibata
200IM
g Phelps
s Lochte
b Cseh
4th Tancock!!!
400IM
g Phelps
s Cseh
b Lochte
4x100 free
g USA
s France
b South Africa
4x200free
g USA
s Australia
b GB (an outside chance - I'd love it if they did it after a 4th in 2004 and the results at the Commies)
4x100medley
g USA
s Japan
b Could be GB if we had a world class fly swimmer but I'm going with Australia

[lane4]

2.0 - interested to know who Rainer Ng is? Why you think Hawes will be ahead of Tancock (among others) in the 100 back? And why you think Delaney is a potential medal winner in the 200 back?

[Woodward]

4x200 free
b GB (an outside chance - I'd love it if they did it after a 4th in 2004 and the results at the Commies)
I think it's better than an outside chance. I didn't give any charity to GB simply as it's a UK swimming site. Silver is a realistic outcome and the odds of them vs. Australia are nearly even. The relay could be boosted by the addition of Hunter. Renwick is another possibility though I think his strength may the the 400. British depth is improving in this race, which had already been considered their best relay medal prospect.

I think there's a real lack of relay depth in this event. I think Britain clearly has positioned itself to be the best 4x200 squad in Europe.

Italy is fading in this event. There seems to be no younger stars at the moment so it will rely on vets. Flipper will be their strength. However, Massi hasn't put together consistent results. Brembilla can put down a half way decent mid distance swim now and then, but his 200 has fallen well off. Cassio is likely to be the 4th swimmer and the other top 3 or 4 contending countries have better options there. Italy finished behind Britain at Worlds and are likely to do the same in Beijing.

Australia will be the main obstacle to silver. Monk is quite young, is still improving, and has shown a knack for swimming great relay splits. I think people might tend to exaggerate the advantage of Hackett in this relay. His speed for the 200 had been waning well before his 2007 slump year. It's extremely unlikely given his training for the 10k that he's going to get anywhere near his best of five or six years ago. Australia does have some handy prospects in Ffrost, Brits, and a few others. Grant has said he will be available for the relay but don't be surprised if he's doesn't swim it.

Canada. Four out of five times Britain would probably beat Canada in this relay. Melbourne was just the one time. Their relay swimmers all hit. Britain not even close. Canada doesn't have a lot of depth so it will only take one off swimmer to put them out of contention.

Other dark horses could include Poland or China. But as of now I don't see the 4 deep that they'll need to get hardware.



4x100medley
s Japan
b Could be GB if we had a world class fly swimmer but I'm going with Australia
If medley teams are close always go with the team that has the strongest free leg. That's always been my rule of thumb! It's an advantage to come from behind in the freestyle moreso than other strokes and I've seen it happen so many times in this event. It's why I knew after Crockers DQ that Australia were going to win. Not simply because they were at home but because they had Sullivan to finish it off. I think Australia are in solid for the silver here, especially since Delaney has come on in the back ... he looks set for a sub 54. Lauterstein had moved away from the back and has found his calling in the fly.

I didn't pick Japan to medal because their back half is a liability. Their freestyle leg has been a glaring weakness and unless they're a body length (if not more) ahead then they will probably be overtaken. They're also weaker in the 100 fly than in the 200. Unless the unretired Yamamoto can rediscover his old form the back half of Japan's relay is pretty weak. This is Britain's problem also, unless they can find a flyer at the next level and Burnett's clicking then the back half is just not there.

[Linny]

Other dark horses could include Poland or China. But as of now I don't see the 4 deep that they'll need to get hardware.My mate says Russia?

[Woodward]

Throw them in with dark horses. Lots of youth. But they need to overcome their habit of doing their best racing domestically to scare the top 3.

[Linny]

Throw them in with dark horses. Lots of youth. But they need to overcome their habit of doing their best racing domestically to scare the top 3.And in that vein, there just isn't enough oriental in anyone's lists to my mind. There's no doubt we will be looking to spring a few surprises with our home advantage come 2012. For sure China will be looking to do the same this year. If I could spell them I'd put some on my list.

[Woodward]

I think China has an excellent chance to win the overall medals table in Beijing. No matter how they fare in the pool.

As for swimming they have some good medal chances with swimmers such as Pang and Zhang. I'm not quite so sure on the female side of things. They have the young IMer Li that could grab some hardware. I don't expect any "wave" though as some people have been warning about ever since China was awarded the games. They warned we would see the start of it in Athens, then they spoke of Montreal, and then Melbourne. If there was going to be a wave it would have materialised by now. But you're right about the home Olympiad push and we could see a few more Chinese up there than we did in Athens. But I don't expect a wave.

The Asian country that has really got my attention is Korea. People only tend to think of Park but they've really established something there. Some great female breaststrokers.

[2.tso]

l4 Rainer Ng swims for singapore has been making some serious time jumps in the 1500.

as for hawes and delaney i have them the wrong way round matty should be in the 200 delaney in the 100, reason for hawes is because i like him he is a good kid and his dad is an old chum of mine!

[lane4]

l4 Rainer Ng swims for singapore has been making some serious time jumps in the 1500.So what is his PB and these jumps he's been making? What's his current world ranking?

reason for hawes is because i like him he is a good kid and his dad is an old chum of mine!Brilliant, what a great reason to win an Olympic medal, there was me thinking talent and training were the key.

[Gina]

Peter Vanderkaay goes a 14.52 at the Toyota Grand Prix meet in Ohio. Results here (http://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/fls/17300/livestats/swim/index.htm). I think the Americans are going to blow the competition away at their Olympic Trials. Aaron Peirsol went a 1.56 and 54 in the 200 and 100 back and Hoff was very close to her best. I am guessing that this is probably an unrested meet for the top swimmers so these are good times in heavy training.

[Woodward]

Though not on a full taper PVK went off weights and shaved unlike the rest of Wolverine. He used this meet as a Missouri Grand Prix make-up where he got whacked with a bug. He doesn't usually swim the 1500 and planned only to swim the 100, 200, and 400 at trials. I wonder if he's reconsidering now.

There are still several other countries other than the U.S. that have yet to hold their trials (e.g. several European countries and Japan).

[Dan_tm]

Not one person here has listed(not even a Bronze) the man that swum the 50m Free in 21.28.....
Incredible........Please explain???????

[Gina]

I put him down for the 100 but this was all done before the Aussie trials remember. Some changes to the above should be made. Sullivan is a big contender in the 50.

[Woodward]

The predictions (which already look dated) were made prior to Sullivan's recent drops. He had never been under 22 until a few months ago. Up until then most thought his chances were better for a medal in the 100.

[Dan_tm]

arghh..Serves myself right for not taking notice of dates of when posts were made!....My apologies!

Anyway...your right..It doesnt take much to make some predictions seem outdated!