100m Men's final (for athletics)

[Shamu]

Im sure a lot of you saw the 100m men's final yesterday in the Commonwealth Games with Dwain Chambers and Mark Lewis Francis............wot a disaster:devil:
They both got injuries:(
I think they were under too much pressure:idea:
The media were just getting too hopeful and excited dont u think?



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[stella]

Yeh. I really felt for Francis. :(

[nsswimmer]

what happened to them???

[Bazza]

They both pulled up with injury. We're never going to beat Australia in the medals table when things like this happen...:(

[Chris]

Part of me couldn't help but think Dwain Chambers pulled up early because he was well out of the race .....

(Chris runs and hides from the angry response)

Did you all see Dale Garland in the decathlon? He was at school with my little brother :D

[Bazza]

Nothing like a clutching-at-straws-scraping-the-barrel-claim-to-fame to give the old self-confidence a much needed boost!:p

Hey wait I think I know that person...oh no my mistake.:o

I-think-I-need-to-cut-down-on-my-use-of-hyphons...:D

[James S]

I'm with you on that one Chris.

and yes, I did see yer man Dale Garland. Excellent 400 and 1500.

[violet]

Originally posted by Chris
Part of me couldn't help but think Dwain Chambers pulled up early because he was well out of the race .....



i agree...i think the only thing injured about chambers was his ego.

i can't believe matt welsh has been disqualified from the 200 back...:mad:

[Shamu]

Matt Welsh - I think that must have been a mistake. Maybe we'll see him in the final after all.;)

[Steve]

Originally posted by Shamu
Matt Welsh - I think that must have been a mistake. Maybe we'll see him in the final after all.;)

...oh no we won't, see: http://www.commonwealthgames.com/Sports/Aquatics/News/default.asp?id=925&folder=Aquatics

His appeal was dismissed. Lane4 reckoned he was harshly done by tho' :o

[Bazza]

Well I don't know if we were watching a different Commonwealth Games to the commentators, but I saw Welsh fidgeting all over the place and am not surprised he got put out. I think it was a fair decision. It also gives us a great chance of picking up another medal in the 200m back and possibly even the gold, although you could argue that not having the undoubtedly the best man in the race is a bad thing. Still should make him more determined to beat Thorpe in the 100m!

[Katie]

I'm glad to see James Goddard taking the gold though! He really deserves it. :)

[violet]

what welsh did was perfectly legal. he seriously was robbed of a certain gold medal. i certainly don't think it was a fair decision, in fact i think it's disgusting that the appeal was rejected. i'm not saying this just because he is an aussie swimmer - if it happened to any swimmer, i'd be equally annoyed. :mad:

[Bazza]

There was no reason to uphold the appeal - the officials acted in the correct manner through every stage, so what was so disgusting?

Also I somehow doubt you'd have been "equally annoyed" if something had happened to our 4x200m relay team for example?!:rolleyes:

[Chris]

I've got to agree. The officials have given me no reason to doubt their accuracy and integrity at any stage (and I can say that even though my dad's judging ..... :rolleyes: )

He was disqualified, fair and simple.

[violet]

the english women won fair and square, i've no doubts about that. the aussie girls aren't swimming as well and your team were too good on the day as was the case in the individual 200. i certainly would still be annoyed if they were DQ'ed wrongly. fair's fair. india wrongly won the gold medal in hockey over england and i was absolutely disgusted by that.

don talbot said straight away that matt's DQ was wrong...he's not the only one. i agree with him...i think it was unjust but it's over. i'm still angry but i'm over it. i'd also appreciate it if i'd be able to have an opinion without that rolling eyes smiley being used at me. i wasn't angry at bazz, i was angry at the decision.

i like to watch great swimming and it doesn't matter which country it is at the end of the day. it was wonderful to see zoe baker win the 50 breast in world record time, it was amazing watching the little-known girl from zimbabwe take out the 200 im from lane 8. it also warmed my heart seeing an english swimmer in tears after winning a gold medal (forgot which one it was...gibson perhaps?). obviously it is fantastic watching my fellow countrymen winning but that can't always happen. i thought the aussies would do better than they are right now, but the home team has stood their ground and produced some fantastic performances, not to mention the other great performances from coventry, sheppard and more.

[Chris]

Violet, everyone respects your views but I'm afraid that my opinion is that they are flawed in this case.

There is nothing to suggest Matt Welsh's DQ was in any way unfair. Are you trying to suggest to me that the Australian Coach's opinion isn't going to be a little partisan? Welsh is an Aussie swimmer - of course he's gonna say the DQ was unfair - who wouldn't? It's pretty much his job to do that ....

I'm sorry if you thought that anyone was getting at you in person - that's not the case. It's just the topic we're disputing ;)

[violet]

i know but talbot has been involved in the sport for years, and one of the best swimming coaches ever - which is why i'm inclined to trust his opinion. obviously he could be biased, but i'm certain he can tell the difference between a fair DQ and an unfair DQ. also, he isn't head coach any more, he's just on the channel seven commentary team. oh well, here's hoping matt will lead off the medley towards a gold medal (well i'm hoping anyway hehe).

sorry for misunderstanding those darn rolling eye smileys. those things are evil. :p

[sub24]

I think part of the controversy when Welsh was disqualified was the fact that the day before in the women's 200im another Australian was disqualified unfairly. The lane judge later admitted that they put the wrong lane on the disqualification form and only after the medal ceremony!! This was later rectified by the officials and they re-awarded the medals in another medal ceremony. The next day Welsh was disqualified and the Aussies felt that there was some kind of conspiracy towards them. When someone world-class like Welsh gets disqualified for stupid things, then I tend to believe that the officials are getting on some kind of power trip. Did Welsh have an "unfair advantage"? I would say no.

[Dreama]

am i alone in noticing here that in matt welsh's race when the starter said ' take your marks ' any normal person, or those following the rules would move to the starting position immediately, however matt welsh moved after the other swimmers, he could have been a) delaying the start or b) in moving when he did be adjudged to have moved in the period just before the starting signal! either case means disqualification does it not? and so he was rightly disqualified. I know that when i do a race on take your marks i move to starting position straight away no hesitation or i will get DQ'd!!! Matt welsh shouldve known better, he threw his medal chances away by not following the starting rules!

[lane4]

Okay, I was right in line on the poolside with the start of Welsh's 200 back heat. Prior to the start I decided to watch Welsh and Welsh only. IMHO he should not have been disqualified. There was absolutely no way from what I saw that the referee could apply the rules of the start to DQ him. He was 100% perfectly still prior to the starting signal. He was the last person to settle into his position but one of the eight competitors has to be last to settle anyway, and as he was still prior to the start there was no justification for a DQ. The official(s) got it wrong big time.

Regardless, the DQ opened the race up and Gregor Tait should have strolled to victory. He had the ability, he had the form, this was it, the race he had focussed on all year. Having pre-qaulified for the Scottish Games team in 2001, Gregor won the 2002 GB trials knowing he was already going to the Games and thus the trials was not his full taper meet. The officials blew it for Welsh but Gregor blew it for himself. Fair play to Goddard though and I was really happy for him but Gregor is unlikely to get as good an opportunity for major championship success as that again.