Relays for Age Group/Youth Nationals 2012

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by Analyst

They seem to have found all the individual results for that session now but not the relays.

Relays are there now too

[BIGBrian]

So the 4x100 Medley relay (boys again)....

Current 40th place cut off is Ealing B at 4:44.76. Might have to get close to 4:35 to get through. Co Liverpool are 26th at 4:34.68, but there are 3 pretty strong regions still left to swim (SE, W and NE), and it gets pretty tight after Liverpool, with another 10 teams still below 4:40

[taxi service]

Glad we all seem to agree so far.. wonder how many of us there are with all the results on spreadsheets..
I have a small question re City of Sunderland, who swum in the Scottish Champs as well as the NE Regionals.
It has to be the same team swimming in both to qualify, doesn't it?
Notice they swum in the Scottish Champs as Sunderland and in the NE Champs as Sunderland A and B. Suppose I shall have to check the swimmers' names.

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by taxi service

Glad we all seem to agree so far.. wonder how many of us there are with all the results on spreadsheets..
I have a small question re City of Sunderland, who swum in the Scottish Champs as well as the NE Regionals.
It has to be the same team swimming in both to qualify, doesn't it?

I believe that was the case for the Youth teams using the Zonals and Regionals as two qualifying competitions, which was only introduced as an option this year for the first time. Not sure whether it applies to a team using the Regionals and either the Welsh/Scottish nationals as alternative options.

[city4nil]

Originally Posted by BIGBrian

I believe that was the case for the Youth teams using the Zonals and Regionals as two qualifying competitions, which was only introduced as an option this year for the first time. Not sure whether it applies to a team using the Regionals and either the Welsh/Scottish nationals as alternative options.

So folk will read those rules and bend over backwards to comply and the majority with ignore them and plead ignorance just like in the arena league - the fact that we are all unsure of exactly what the rules are what chance have the coaches got ! Is it available in big print somewhere.

[swimbar]

Originally Posted by BIGBrian

I believe that was the case for the Youth teams using the Zonals and Regionals as two qualifying competitions, which was only introduced as an option this year for the first time. Not sure whether it applies to a team using the Regionals and either the Welsh/Scottish nationals as alternative options.

I think it only applied to Youth Teams.

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by swimbar

I think it only applied to Youth Teams.

There weren't any Age Group relays at the Zonals anyway so it couldn't have applied. The issue is whether the rules apply in the same way at the SNAGS/Wales qualifying competitions as they did for the Zonals. I'm not convinced they do, and in any case, I don't think Sunderland have done anything against those rules anyway.

Looking at the boys teams, Sunderland didn't enter the 4x200 at the SNAGS and the medley relay hasn't been swum in the NE region yet, so the only point of comparison at the moment is the 4x100 free.

Only 3 of the 4 swimmers from the SNAGS swam in the NE Regionals, where the team swam a faster time. The time from the SNAGS is already outside the top 40, and the time from the NE Regionals is currently 37th with the West left to swim, so they probably won't qualify anyway.

But even if they do, since the swimmer who came in for them in the Regionals hadn't swum for another team at the SNAGS, they were entitled to swim him. Haven't looked at the girls' teams, though.

[awaldram]

Originally Posted by BIGBrian

I'm expecting Plymouth and Millfield to have probably 2 teams each in the 3:40 to 3:55 range...

Our 4x200 team is 8th at the moment too, but only 2 regions to go in that one. I doubt there are 32 teams left to compete, let alone beat the time!

And our Medley boys are going to break 4:20 (it says here)

Swimming out of position out of stroke and carrying injuries if those boys hit 4:20 I'll have to doff my hat to em.

Mind you I can guarantee they'll give 100% and they surprised in the 4X1 so who knows, excitement mounts .

You planing on coming to play ?

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by awaldram

Swimming out of position out of stroke and carrying injuries if those boys hit 4:20 I'll have to doff my hat to em.

Mind you I can guarantee they'll give 100% and they surprised in the 4X1 so who knows, excitement mounts .

You planing on coming to play ?

I might if it was on the Sunday, but can't do Saturday. Might come Sunday anyway, but bearing in mind the last time I went to K2 I ended up coming home in an AA recovery vehicle towing my car, I'm not keen to repeat the experience!

[city4nil]

When will all the age teams conclude? Is it next weekend?

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by city4nil

When will all the age teams conclude? Is it next weekend?

West aren't doing their 4x200 team event until 16th

[junior statto]

Originally Posted by BIGBrian

The 4 x 200s are all in now too, except for West again, and East as well.

Cut off at the moment is Wandsworth at 9:04.41. There are 35 teams already under 9 mins, so it looks like anything over that time may not make it.

I'm probably another one maintaining a spreadsheet for the Boys Age Groups!!

BB would you mind PM'ing me with your spreadsheets just to validate my effort; I particularly interested in 4x200 - i wonder why!

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by junior statto

I'm probably another one maintaining a spreadsheet for the Boys Age Groups!!

BB would you mind PM'ing me with your spreadsheets just to validate my effort; I particularly interested in 4x200 - i wonder why!

I don't think you need to worry about the 4x200....your lot are still top of the shop (by more than 6 seconds) with only West and East left to go.

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by junior statto

I'm probably another one maintaining a spreadsheet for the Boys Age Groups!!

BB would you mind PM'ing me with your spreadsheets just to validate my effort; I particularly interested in 4x200 - i wonder why!

Seems you can't send attachments in a PM. Or an xls file at all (invalid file format). If you want to PM me your e-mail address I'll send it to you.

[comeondarlo]

I've PMed you