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Old 17-02-2012, 06:23 AM   #61
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No Aussies though, and you can't have a proper global level meet without them at the party. Nice to see Hinkelien Schreuderback in action after getting screwed by the Dutch national federation in 2011.
With respect it's supposed to be the British Championships. Not a global level meet.
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Old 17-02-2012, 06:25 AM   #62
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yeah, strange about Zoe Baker. She managed to change her nationality recently, back to British, presumably so she could try and qualify for the London Games. She's been training and regularly tweets about going to Bath and Swansea to train (and was on camp in California with Swansea ITC). It all seems a bit strange if she's now not going to be at Trials. Unless she's going to leave it all to the ASA Nationals to qualify.

Can anyone shed any light on what's going on?
I don't think she would be able to qualify for 100br even if she wanted too. From tweets around the time of her comeback I implied that it was about going to Glasgow in 2014 (and perhaps worlds in 2013) but don't quote me on that - pure speculation!
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Old 17-02-2012, 08:12 AM   #63
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With respect it's supposed to be the British Championships. Not a global level meet.
With it being an official Olympic test event run in conjunction with LOCOG it had to be open to countries worldwide.
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Old 17-02-2012, 09:03 AM   #64
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With it being an official Olympic test event run in conjunction with LOCOG it had to be open to countries worldwide.
No Doubt. But it's not marketed as a global meet.
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Old 17-02-2012, 09:07 AM   #65
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With it being an official Olympic test event run in conjunction with LOCOG it had to be open to countries worldwide.
Strange behaviour for the 'British' Championships .

If they were a commercial concern they'd be done under trade description

Is it Olympic committee , LOCOG or who defines it has to allow Non British participation.?

As a spectator I thoroughly approve but think it probably not in the interest of British swimmers.
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Old 17-02-2012, 09:23 AM   #66
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Managed to buy a ticket from Ticketmaster this morning (Fri.17th) for Sunday 4th March Finals
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Old 17-02-2012, 09:42 AM   #67
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Strange behaviour for the 'British' Championships .
Assuming test events have to be open to other countries (which I'm fairly sure is true) British Swimming would have had two choices:
  • Allow the British Champs to be a test event and accept foreign athletes
  • Hold the British Champs somewhere else
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Old 17-02-2012, 09:54 AM   #68
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Assuming test events have to be open to other countries (which I'm fairly sure is true) British Swimming would have had two choices:
  • Allow the British Champs to be a test event and accept foreign athletes
  • Hold the British Champs somewhere else

Sort of undermines any advantage a British Swimmer gets from swimming in the Olympic pool .

Maybe going elsewhere would have been more appropriate.

Are any other Countries showing their hand so close to the Event ?

Are you officiating , If so see you Friday 9th.
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Old 17-02-2012, 10:18 AM   #69
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Assuming test events have to be open to other countries (which I'm fairly sure is true) British Swimming would have had two choices:
  • Allow the British Champs to be a test event and accept foreign athletes
  • Hold the British Champs somewhere else
I can't imagine the Chinese had such little access to their own pool prior to Beijing (pure speculation of course) and did they make it available to the World pre-Olympics? I find it incredible that the National Squad and our Olympic hopefuls have had such limited access unless their has been a photo call / publicity angle. How about some discrete access to at least let our athletes get familiar with the place?

On second thoughts, maybe there has been discrete access granted and the fact we don't know about it means that it's working......does anyone know?
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Old 17-02-2012, 10:58 AM   #70
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I can't imagine the Chinese had such little access to their own pool prior to Beijing (pure speculation of course) and did they make it available to the World pre-Olympics? I find it incredible that the National Squad and our Olympic hopefuls have had such limited access unless their has been a photo call / publicity angle. How about some discrete access to at least let our athletes get familiar with the place?

On second thoughts, maybe there has been discrete access granted and the fact we don't know about it means that it's working......does anyone know?
I guess once the team is selected the access could than be sorted. The GB team organisers cannot be stupid, can they?
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There's a requirement that if a venue is open for use by the home country, it has to offer at least one test event open to qualified international athletes. Beijing had a special 'Beijing Open' meet in 2008 to satisfy this requirement. (Not sure what their national selection process was that year.)

British swimming could have probably done a UK-only selection meet plus a 'London Open' meet and have it been kosher under IOC rules, but I suspect they didn't want the expense of two meets and probably not as much fan interest since there are no guarantees of drawing big name international swimmers to the 'London Open' that will put butts in seats.

As for host country access to venues, the rules seem pretty loose as long as some access by other nations is allowed. I remember a minor kerfluffle in Vancouver about how much practice time the Canadians were allowing to other countries for practice in sledding sports.
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I guess once the team is selected the access could than be sorted. The GB team organisers cannot be stupid, can they?
Remember Britain runs on rules how many other countries actually take heed of what you are supposed to do and not to do!!!!!
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I have lost/mislaid/deleted the picture of the seating plan...can anyone help me please?
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Old 17-02-2012, 02:28 PM   #74
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British Swimming planned for and delivered the British Swimming Championships 2012 based on the provision of 2500 seats per session offered by LOCOG in July 2011.

LOCOG made an additional 968 seats per session available for FINA World Cup Diving event this month and also offered BS the option of adding these seats to the British Championships capacity.

British Swimming made the decision NOT to offer these tickets for sale based on the limited time available to market and sell the seats while resources were focused on the final stages of delivering of a world class event.
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British Swimming planned for and delivered the British Swimming Championships 2012 based on the provision of 2500 seats per session offered by LOCOG in July 2011.

LOCOG made an additional 968 seats per session available for FINA World Cup Diving event this month and also offered BS the option of adding these seats to the British Championships capacity.

British Swimming made the decision NOT to offer these tickets for sale based on the limited time available to market and sell the seats while resources were focused on the final stages of delivering of a world class event.
I wonder if those are the ones being offered to (late) qualifers?
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