Positives & Negatives of the London 2012 Olympics...So Far !!

[Silver Fox]

POSITIVES & NEGATIVES OF LONDON 2012 OLYMPICS
SO FAR !!

NEGATIVES

Ticket distribution fiasco

Security fiasco resulting in extra Armed Forces being brought in

Team GB selection fiasco

Drug cheats selected for Team GB

Threat of public transport interruption

Free tickets for MP’s for major events

Continual negative responses by Seb Coe to searching questions

Too many corporate tickets being given away

Too many tickets being offered as prizes which will never be won or used

POSITIVES

The power of public opinion resulting in tickets for athlete’s families being raised from one to two

The support by the public for the Torch relay sometimes in appalling weather

The support by the public for all the test events

The main positives will come at the Games we hope

All venues being completed on time

[awaldram]

I think youve missed lots of positives such as

Rejuvenation of tiring infrastructure (i.e motorway barrier replacement).
Lots of new sports facilities
Enthused a generation of athletes
and many more.

Here is a little known fact for you , When a race is competed the results are delivered to the external press faster than the internal scoreboard posts the times (now thats quick).

[Silver Fox]

This post was started so that forum members can add their opinions and that eventually we will have an overall picture of all the Positives & Negatives

[Shezzaxx]

Pro: state of the art 50m swimming facility in the East of London - at last!
Con: not available to use after the games until at least 2014

[Dave_G]

Positives:
All the ones already mentioned.
Potential to enthuse youngsters (and others) to take up sport, thereby improving the nation's fitness levels by reducing obesity.
Motivation for a new generation of athletes in the future.

Negatives.
Those mentioned above.
Too few tickets for genuine followers of sport, too many for corporate hospitality, big business, politicians.
Monopoly on food outlets by large companies leading to less choice and higher prices.
Allowing fast access to the games for so-called VIPs, whilst everyone else will be stuck in traffic jams.
Security fiasco!
Security overreaction by installing missiles on the roofs of residential flats and billetting troops there.
Failure to consult residents over last point.

[Apostle]

Originally Posted by Dave_G

Positives:
All the ones already mentioned.
Potential to enthuse youngsters (and others) to take up sport, thereby improving the nation's fitness levels by reducing obesity.
Motivation for a new generation of athletes in the future.

Negatives.
Those mentioned above.
Too few tickets for genuine followers of sport, too many for corporate hospitality, big business, politicians.
Monopoly on food outlets by large companies leading to less choice and higher prices.
Allowing fast access to the games for so-called VIPs, whilst everyone else will be stuck in traffic jams.
Security fiasco!
Security overreaction by installing missiles on the roofs of residential flats and billetting troops there.
Failure to consult residents over last point.

Sorry. Got to post something now as I can't believe people always believe they have the right to criticise things from afar as if they would have the ability to do a better job themselves. So you not realise how big a project this is?

Instead of criticising, And I mean all the previous posters not just Dave G come up with realistic plans for how you would have done it and financed it.

Without the big copropations funding this with billions of pounds of their own money we would not have had the games here. This is why the fast food giant is able to have a monopoly because they paid in cash for it. Same with VISA and all the other coporations.

Once the games is completed and the final analysis is done lets see how much it cost the UK to provide a magnificent spectacle. You never know we might even break even, or be close to it.

Regards tickets. If your big corporations are paying for the gig, don't they get to decide how many tickets they are going to get?

Security over reaction? Do you remember september 11 2001? PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS. They UK is a major ally of the US and a prime target for terrorists planning the next spectacular event. Who cares what the the people who live in the buildings think of ground to air missles on the top of their building. It won't the thiers that the planes are flying into so they will be safe.

I'd love to know how the ticket alocation can be done fairly? Fairly according to who? those people who did not get a ticket, or those that never intended to get a ticket but thought they'd have a moan anyway.

For the price of a good ticket you could bu yourself a 50 inch HD / 3D TV and wathc it all in the living room of your own home. You get to see a lot more of it as well and not have to go through the security measures in place when entering the stadiums.

had enough. rant over. sorry.

[Silver Fox]

Apology accepted

[BIGBrian]

Originally Posted by Apostle

Sorry. Got to post something now as I can't believe people always believe they have the right to criticise things from afar as if they would have the ability to do a better job themselves. So you not realise how big a project this is?

Instead of criticising, And I mean all the previous posters not just Dave G come up with realistic plans for how you would have done it and financed it.

Without the big copropations funding this with billions of pounds of their own money we would not have had the games here. This is why the fast food giant is able to have a monopoly because they paid in cash for it. Same with VISA and all the other coporations.

Once the games is completed and the final analysis is done lets see how much it cost the UK to provide a magnificent spectacle. You never know we might even break even, or be close to it.

Regards tickets. If your big corporations are paying for the gig, don't they get to decide how many tickets they are going to get?

Security over reaction? Do you remember september 11 2001? PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS. They UK is a major ally of the US and a prime target for terrorists planning the next spectacular event. Who cares what the the people who live in the buildings think of air to air missles on the top of their building. It won't the thiers that the planes are flying into so they will be safe.

I'd love to know how the ticket alocation can be done fairly? Fairly according to who? those people who did not get a ticket, or those that never intended to get a ticket but thought they'd have a moan anyway.

For the price of a good ticket you could bu yourself a 50 inch HD / 3D TV and wathc it all in the living room of your own home. You get to see a lot more of it as well and not have to go through the security measures in place when entering the stadiums.

had enough. rant over. sorry.

Agree with most of what you said, but..

I still don't understand why Sepp Blatter, President of FIFA, and a bunch of his cronies, should get priority seats to the swimming, over the parents of the competitors. Are FIFA in some way funding the Games?

[comeondarlo]

Originally Posted by Apostle

Sorry. Got to post something now as I can't believe people always believe they have the right to criticise things from afar as if they would have the ability to do a better job themselves. So you not realise how big a project this is?

Instead of criticising, And I mean all the previous posters not just Dave G come up with realistic plans for how you would have done it and financed it.

Without the big copropations funding this with billions of pounds of their own money we would not have had the games here. This is why the fast food giant is able to have a monopoly because they paid in cash for it. Same with VISA and all the other coporations.

Once the games is completed and the final analysis is done lets see how much it cost the UK to provide a magnificent spectacle. You never know we might even break even, or be close to it.

Regards tickets. If your big corporations are paying for the gig, don't they get to decide how many tickets they are going to get?

Security over reaction? Do you remember september 11 2001? PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS. They UK is a major ally of the US and a prime target for terrorists planning the next spectacular event. Who cares what the the people who live in the buildings think of ground to air missles on the top of their building. It won't the thiers that the planes are flying into so they will be safe.

I'd love to know how the ticket alocation can be done fairly? Fairly according to who? those people who did not get a ticket, or those that never intended to get a ticket but thought they'd have a moan anyway.

For the price of a good ticket you could bu yourself a 50 inch HD / 3D TV and wathc it all in the living room of your own home. You get to see a lot more of it as well and not have to go through the security measures in place when entering the stadiums.

had enough. rant over. sorry.

[storpedo91]

Originally Posted by BIGBrian

Agree with most of what you said, but..

I still don't understand why Sepp Blatter, President of FIFA, and a bunch of his cronies, should get priority seats to the swimming, over the parents of the competitors. Are FIFA in some way funding the Games?

I believe they were given the tickets in an effort to bring the World Cup to England. Someone obviously decided it would be better for them to have the tickets before they voted. They were offered free usage of some posh hotel as well, but that was withdrawn as soon as we found out we lost the bid for the World Cup.

[Dave_G]

Is that not bribery? And does that not suggest, to adapt a quote from a well-known poet, "There is something rotten in the state of sport"?

[storpedo91]

Probably, although The World Cup Committee would probably deny it and say, that they were incentives or something.

[Dave_G]

Would someone explain to me, the difference between an 'incentive' and a 'bribe'?

[Apostle]

Originally Posted by Dave_G

Would someone explain to me, the difference between an 'incentive' and a 'bribe'?

An Incentive may be a bonus for doing a good job.

A bribe may be for failing to do your job in order that other people may gain

[Bold Dave]

Sadly its the way the world goes around, you be nice to me and I'll be nice to you just gets mucky when filthy lucre gets involved! As for "rotten in the state of sport" every day the back pages of the press tells you it has never been anything but rotten!! Rangers bust, cyclists drugged, athletes drugged, footballers overpaid and impervious to the law (JT) and where World Cup will be held in 50 degrees in Qatar where do I stop......