Would you withdraw?

Bazza · 21-04-2004, 01:51 PM

OK seeing as this thread is not in the off topic forum hopefully you have realised it is about whether Thorpe should swim the 400m free in Athens or not!

The question is simple, the answer is not so simple.

If you wer Craig Stevens would you pull out of the 400m to let Thorpe swim or not?

chris_lamb · 21-04-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazza

If you wer Craig Stevens would you pull out of the 400m to let Thorpe swim or not?

I think I would.

Stevens is unlikely to win, but Thorpe has a very good chance. Stevens qualified because Thorpe made a mistake, not through swimming faster.

Top10ranking · 21-04-2004, 03:46 PM

i wouldn't it might be his only chance

GettingFaster · 21-04-2004, 03:55 PM

My first thought would be No, I'd earnt my place, but would I then be able to put up with the media pressure to withdraw in favour of Thorpe? If I couldn't put up with the pressure then I'd have to withdraw. And I couldn't choose the fourth option because I wouldn't have any say on who would get the place instead. That's as firmly on the fence as it's possible to be, I reckon!

lozswimmer · 21-04-2004, 05:00 PM

If it was my only event i wouldnt withdraw, but it isnt stevens only event and thorpe has a much better chance of a medal than stevens

Katie · 21-04-2004, 05:49 PM

Yes I think I agree with loz... Stevens also qualified for the 1500m, and I think it would in a way be quite difficult for him NOT to pull out. I don't mean anyone is forcing him, but there has been such a fuss made of the whole affair that it is pretty much expected now. Stevens will still get a swim in the Olympics, and may well feel that he only truly deserves to be there for the 1500 (although, of course, this is not the case). It's a difficult one...

Top10ranking · 21-04-2004, 05:57 PM

is it likely to b his last olympics?

blueshots · 21-04-2004, 07:45 PM

I,ve read today that there will be an announcement on monday. Also there is rumoured to be money offered for stevens, namly a scholarship which will put him him gd stead for the next olympics.
That said though, Thorpes his mate who if it was me i'd hold my hand up and say it was my mistake and wish him well.

blueshots · 21-04-2004, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chris_lamb

I think I would.

Stevens is unlikely to win, but Thorpe has a very good chance. Stevens qualified because Thorpe made a mistake, not through swimming faster.

mistakes lose races. Anyone wud av beat thorpe if he false starts, better now than in Athens. why Thorpe would be tryin to be that quick off the block that he falls in i dont no as its likly he wud finish ahead of the field in a 400 if he straddled jumped in.
If rules are going to be changed it shud be noted for next time

Steve · 21-04-2004, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blueshots

I,ve read today that there will be an announcement on monday. Also there is rumoured to be money offered for stevens, namly a scholarship which will put him him gd stead for the next olympics.
That said though, Thorpes his mate who if it was me i'd hold my hand up and say it was my mistake and wish him well.

See: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...530237963.html

As for money, I think it's just payment for the exclusive interview; Stevens will have an AIS scholarship until Beijing if he wants it in any case.

GettingFaster · 21-04-2004, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blueshots

... why Thorpe would be tryin to be that quick off the block that he falls in i dont no as its likly he wud finish ahead of the field in a 400 if he straddled jumped in.

Didn't you SEE the pictures? It really didn't look like he did a flyer to me -- a straddle jump would have been MUCH more elegant! The bloke just over-balanced and fell in, much like a 10-yr-old in their first gala.

lozswimmer · 22-04-2004, 07:10 AM

they showed him actually falling in on the olympic trials coverage

matt · 22-04-2004, 08:45 AM

I personally wouldn't, I would be like wahay I won you fell in; not my problem! It's the Olympics after all! However, I suppose I would consider it but I wouldn't actually pull out.

Bazza · 22-04-2004, 10:30 AM

I was going to say that I wouldn't pull out, reason being that Stevens earnt his place, it wasn't his fault that Thorpe got DQd, and the Olympics is the pinnacle of your swimming career. This may be Stevens' only Olympic Games and if he withdraws he may come to regret it later in life.

Having said that, you guys are starting to talk me round in so much that if Stevens doesn't win a medal or in fact even if he does he will be known as the man who denied Thorpe his Olympic title.

Like I said, it's not an easy decision to make!!

chlorine_babe · 22-04-2004, 11:19 AM

It's not an easy decision but I think I would pull out. He still has his better event the 1500 to swim and the 4*200m relay. I wouldn't want always to be the one who denied Ian Thorpe is 400m title. If it was only the 400m no way would I pull out but with the 1500m as well I think it would be easier all round and from what it looks like Stevens will end up with a nice deal.

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Yes I would pull out and let Thorpe swim!	13	36.11%
No I earnt my place and it's not my fault he fell in!	20	55.56%
I don't know.	3	8.33%
I would only pull out if they pick Krogh because I'm spiteful!!	0	0%
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21-04-2004, 01:51 PM	#1
Bazza Less is more! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 2,712	Would you withdraw? OK seeing as this thread is not in the off topic forum hopefully you have realised it is about whether Thorpe should swim the 400m free in Athens or not! The question is simple, the answer is not so simple. If you wer Craig Stevens would you pull out of the 400m to let Thorpe swim or not? __________________ "Lets see if I can beat the Russians with a rug on my back." "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer."

21-04-2004, 05:00 PM	#5
lozswimmer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Staffs Posts: 408	If it was my only event i wouldnt withdraw, but it isnt stevens only event and thorpe has a much better chance of a medal than stevens __________________ What Doesnt Kill You Makes You Stronger

21-04-2004, 05:49 PM	#6
Katie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,216	Yes I think I agree with loz... Stevens also qualified for the 1500m, and I think it would in a way be quite difficult for him NOT to pull out. I don't mean anyone is forcing him, but there has been such a fuss made of the whole affair that it is pretty much expected now. Stevens will still get a swim in the Olympics, and may well feel that he only truly deserves to be there for the 1500 (although, of course, this is not the case). It's a difficult one... __________________ Katie xxx

21-04-2004, 07:45 PM	#8
blueshots Loving coverage of 2008 Olympic Games Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, West Midlands Posts: 54	announcement next mon I,ve read today that there will be an announcement on monday. Also there is rumoured to be money offered for stevens, namly a scholarship which will put him him gd stead for the next olympics. That said though, Thorpes his mate who if it was me i'd hold my hand up and say it was my mistake and wish him well.

21-04-2004, 03:46 PM	#3
Top10ranking FatBoy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: buckinghamshire Posts: 1,039	i wouldn't it might be his only chance

21-04-2004, 03:55 PM	#4
GettingFaster Established Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,301	My first thought would be No, I'd earnt my place, but would I then be able to put up with the media pressure to withdraw in favour of Thorpe? If I couldn't put up with the pressure then I'd have to withdraw. And I couldn't choose the fourth option because I wouldn't have any say on who would get the place instead. That's as firmly on the fence as it's possible to be, I reckon!

21-04-2004, 05:57 PM	#7
Top10ranking FatBoy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: buckinghamshire Posts: 1,039	is it likely to b his last olympics?

22-04-2004, 07:10 AM	#12
lozswimmer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Staffs Posts: 408	they showed him actually falling in on the olympic trials coverage __________________ What Doesnt Kill You Makes You Stronger

22-04-2004, 08:45 AM	#13
matt Insert comment here ... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1,163	I personally wouldn't, I would be like wahay I won you fell in; not my problem! It's the Olympics after all! However, I suppose I would consider it but I wouldn't actually pull out.

22-04-2004, 10:30 AM	#14
Bazza Less is more! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 2,712	I was going to say that I wouldn't pull out, reason being that Stevens earnt his place, it wasn't his fault that Thorpe got DQd, and the Olympics is the pinnacle of your swimming career. This may be Stevens' only Olympic Games and if he withdraws he may come to regret it later in life. Having said that, you guys are starting to talk me round in so much that if Stevens doesn't win a medal or in fact even if he does he will be known as the man who denied Thorpe his Olympic title. Like I said, it's not an easy decision to make!! __________________ "Lets see if I can beat the Russians with a rug on my back." "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer."

22-04-2004, 11:19 AM	#15
chlorine_babe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 551	It's not an easy decision but I think I would pull out. He still has his better event the 1500 to swim and the 4*200m relay. I wouldn't want always to be the one who denied Ian Thorpe is 400m title. If it was only the 400m no way would I pull out but with the 1500m as well I think it would be easier all round and from what it looks like Stevens will end up with a nice deal.

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