Convert Short Course Times into Long Course Times

etwallswim · 31-05-2006, 11:16 AM

This has probably been asked so many times but I am doing my first long course races next month at the National Masters Champs in Manchester and I have ony ever raced in a 25m pool before. So I was wondering if I take my 50m short course time multiply it by 2 and add 2 secs would that convert into a 100m race in a long course pool?

NotVeryFast · 31-05-2006, 11:29 AM

Use this:
http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com...onversions.asp

Steve · 31-05-2006, 01:56 PM

Or this:

http://www.pullbuoy.co.uk/times

lindsay · 31-05-2006, 03:12 PM

Not very encouraginig!

I find my times for 50m and 100m free not very satisfactory. And now I learn that if I did it in long course it would still be worse

NotVeryFast · 31-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Lindsay, don't look at slower long course times as being worse. The slower time is equivalent to a faster short course time. There's a chap at my club who refuses to enter long course meets because he doesn't like to see the slower times! All I do is compare the points each swim is worth, e.g. using FINA points:
http://www.swimnews.com/Ranking/ips.jhtml

Every swim I do, whether it's short or long course, I just look up the points to judge how good a swim it was.

lindsay · 31-05-2006, 05:39 PM

Thank you, NotVery Fast for the link. It was so sweet of you that you directed me to a Polish site

!

I entered your homepage and I could see your times. I must say I am dreaming of such results.

Big Nev · 31-05-2006, 07:49 PM

For a rule of thumb:

I enter 1 second slower for 50 m. swims and 1.5 seconds slower for 100m.

etwallswim · 01-06-2006, 08:46 AM

Thanks guys but what I was most concerned about was the conversion from 50m to 100m. As I have never raced in a 100m long or short course so how do I take my 50m short course time and estimate what I will swim for 100m long course

NotVeryFast · 01-06-2006, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etwallswim

Thanks guys but what I was most concerned about was the conversion from 50m to 100m. As I have never raced in a 100m long or short course so how do I take my 50m short course time and estimate what I will swim for 100m long course

You can't really do this, the relationship between 50 and 100 times is a personal one, depending on your conditioning. If you look at other people who do the same 50 time as you, their 100 times will vary significantly.

However..... from calculations I've done in the past, I'd say most people's 100 time is roughly double the 50 time plus 4-6 seconds (for freestyle). So if you were to double your SC 50 time and add 5 seconds, then convert that time to long course using the web site, you shouldn't be more than a second or two out either way.

etwallswim · 01-06-2006, 10:38 AM

Oh God that looks like it could be a problem for the races I've entered then as I have obviously put down a faster time than I will swim as all I did was take my short course time double it and add 2 sec. It looks as if I'll be coming in last in all my heats lol

Odie · 01-06-2006, 01:22 PM

Don't view it as a problem! It should encourage you to swim faster

and hey - at least you can be sure of a PB!

31-05-2006, 11:16 AM	#1
etwallswim Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Midlands Posts: 80	Convert Short Course Times into Long Course Times This has probably been asked so many times but I am doing my first long course races next month at the National Masters Champs in Manchester and I have ony ever raced in a 25m pool before. So I was wondering if I take my 50m short course time multiply it by 2 and add 2 secs would that convert into a 100m race in a long course pool? __________________ Lee

31-05-2006, 11:29 AM	#2
NotVeryFast ...but faster than most Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Surrey Posts: 4,447	Use this: http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com...onversions.asp __________________ It isn't how fast you can become a good swimmer that matters, it's how good a swimmer you can become.

31-05-2006, 01:56 PM	#3
Steve swimming anorak (not lazy) Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cambridge Posts: 2,633	Or this: http://www.pullbuoy.co.uk/times __________________ http://www.pullbuoy.co.uk the UK swimming site http://www.twitter.com/pullbuoy

31-05-2006, 03:21 PM	#5
NotVeryFast ...but faster than most Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Surrey Posts: 4,447	Lindsay, don't look at slower long course times as being worse. The slower time is equivalent to a faster short course time. There's a chap at my club who refuses to enter long course meets because he doesn't like to see the slower times! All I do is compare the points each swim is worth, e.g. using FINA points: http://www.swimnews.com/Ranking/ips.jhtml Every swim I do, whether it's short or long course, I just look up the points to judge how good a swim it was. __________________ It isn't how fast you can become a good swimmer that matters, it's how good a swimmer you can become.

31-05-2006, 07:49 PM	#7
Big Nev Now retired and loving it!!!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Rochdale and driving on M60 to Trafford training sessions Posts: 4,087	For a rule of thumb: I enter 1 second slower for 50 m. swims and 1.5 seconds slower for 100m. __________________ Age improves with good wine

31-05-2006, 03:12 PM	#4
lindsay Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Poland, Bytom Posts: 300	Not very encouraginig! I find my times for 50m and 100m free not very satisfactory. And now I learn that if I did it in long course it would still be worse

31-05-2006, 05:39 PM	#6
lindsay Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Poland, Bytom Posts: 300	Thank you, NotVery Fast for the link. It was so sweet of you that you directed me to a Polish site ! I entered your homepage and I could see your times. I must say I am dreaming of such results.

01-06-2006, 08:46 AM	#8
etwallswim Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Midlands Posts: 80	Thanks guys but what I was most concerned about was the conversion from 50m to 100m. As I have never raced in a 100m long or short course so how do I take my 50m short course time and estimate what I will swim for 100m long course __________________ Lee

01-06-2006, 10:38 AM	#10
etwallswim Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Midlands Posts: 80	Oh God that looks like it could be a problem for the races I've entered then as I have obviously put down a faster time than I will swim as all I did was take my short course time double it and add 2 sec. It looks as if I'll be coming in last in all my heats lol __________________ Lee

01-06-2006, 01:22 PM	#11
Odie Audere est Facere Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land Posts: 107	Don't view it as a problem! It should encourage you to swim faster and hey - at least you can be sure of a PB! __________________ Odie Champagne for my Real Friends, Real Pain for my Sham Friends

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